Bill Meltzer: Quick Hits: MacDonald, Dallas Goalies, Laperriere

It's absolutely infuriating that the Flyers just don't re-sign Mason.

This may sound dumb but if they moved MacDonald I would be interested in Phanuef. Ottawa needs to move him or possibly lose Methot or Cici in the expansion draft. I know he has 4 years left at 7mil but what if you cold get Ottawa to retain 50% and possibly take a contract like Read.

I think he could be a solid vet as your filtering in rookies on the back end and he can play some heavy minutes for you.

Again i would need to lose MacDonald first and the deal would have to be a win for me with Ottawa.

I thought trade freeze was tomorrow at noon ?

I thought trade freeze was tomorrow at noon ?
- Flyers Time

http://www.courierpostonl...re-free-agency/398273001/

http://www.courierpostonline.com/story/sports/nhl/flyers/flyer-files/2017/06/14/guide-flyers-offseason-before-free-agency/398273001/
- bmeltzer

A lot of people on twitter saying 3pm eastern tomorrow.



Saturday, June 17 - Commencement of the Expansion Draft Trade/Waiver Freeze for all NHL Clubs with exception of the Expansion Club (3 p.m. ET).

Commencement of Expansion Draft Signing Moratorium on NHL SPCs for all NHL Clubs with exception of the Expansion Club (3 p.m. ET).

https://www.nhl.com/news/...ritical-dates/c-289723278

I like Smith as a UFA defenseman

Yes I know it's not happening

Isaac is wrong. Noon today is just the deadline for players to be put on waivers.

https://www.nhl.com/news/...ritical-dates/c-289723278

Thursday, June 15 - First Buy-Out Period begins.

Deadline for Clubs to ask Players with "No Move" clauses whether they want to be placed on Waivers for purposes of Buy-Outs prior to Expansion Draft (11:59 am ET).

Friday, June 16 - Last day to place Player on Waivers prior to Expansion Draft Trade/Waiver Freeze (12 p.m. ET).

Deadline for Players to agree to "waive" their "No Move" clauses for purposes of Expansion Draft (5 p.m. ET).

Saturday, June 17 - Commencement of the Expansion Draft Trade/Waiver Freeze for all NHL Clubs with exception of the Expansion Club (3 p.m. ET).

Commencement of Expansion Draft Signing Moratorium on NHL SPCs for all NHL Clubs with exception of the Expansion Club (3 p.m. ET).

Deadline for each Club to simultaneously submit its Protection List to Central Registry and the NHLPA (5 p.m. ET).

Heads exploding all over North Jersey and California today.

Philadelphia Inquirer beat writer Sam Carchidi suggested that the Flyers might instead try to unload MacDonald to Vegas -- even if it meant adding draft pick assets as a sweetener -- and then use his $5 million of cap money to go all out to land unrestricted free agent winger T.J. Oshie for more scoring help up front. With all due respect to Sam, that seems to be a far-fetched idea for two reasons:

I'll add a third reason - the Flyers already have more forwards than they have room on the roster for. Even if they lose a guy like Raffl to Vegas. And RW is where the depth is greatest - Voracek, Simmonds, Schenn, Weise, Konecny and Weal can all play that position.

It's absolutely infuriating that the Flyers just don't re-sign Mason.
- KGBflyers10

Yes it is.He is still the best available option in my opinion.

Both sides must have really burned some bridges.

This may sound dumb but if they moved MacDonald I would be interested in Phanuef. Ottawa needs to move him or possibly lose Methot or Cici in the expansion draft. I know he has 4 years left at 7mil but what if you cold get Ottawa to retain 50% and possibly take a contract like Read.

I think he could be a solid vet as your filtering in rookies on the back end and he can play some heavy minutes for you.

Again i would need to lose MacDonald first and the deal would have to be a win for me with Ottawa.
- J35Bacher

I think a straight up swap of Phaneuf for MacDonald does make some sense. Otherwise Ottawa could lose Ceci or Methot.

since we're not resigning Mase (which angers me to no ends like seriously give me a better option for cheaper i dare you), i would be okay with shipping read/raffl and a 4th for Niemi and a 2nd

what about Brennan as a replacement for MacD?

what about Brennan as a replacement for MacD?
- blueshark200

Brennan is not even in the same arena as MacDonald.

Both sides used one of those TNT bombs the Coyote from the Road Runner always had on hand.

what about Brennan as a replacement for MacD?
- blueshark200

Good stuff Bill. I have no problem with AMac being on the roster in 17-18, I just don't like him on the top pairing. Would it not make more sense to pair Gudas with Provorov on the top pair and let AMac team with rookie Robert Hagg? It would also have the added bonus of allowing Provorov to play his natural side which should help him when he is constantly matching up against the oppositions best players.

RE the goalies: They are still a bubble team at best in 17-18, so I'm not that concerned with who is in net next season. If they can do a deal along the lines of below, I'd be happy:

To Dallas: Matt Read
To Philly: Kari Lehtonen (with 2 million retained by Dallas) and a 3rd round 2018 draft choice.

Dallas undoes their logjam, doesn't add any cap dollars and gets Lehtonen and Niemi completely off the books after 17-18. Philly gets a solid goalie (I don't think any goalie was going to put up great numbers playing in Dallas the last couple of years) for an affordable price for one year, and eases their logjam at forward a bit.

Seems like a win/win to me.

I think one side burned a bridge and that was Mase, far too much running of the mouth regardless if it was needed or not. He's the goalie, not the captain. Is he the better of the UFA goalies out there, probably but Hextall would probably like to just move on at this point. Too, no doubt in my mind Flyers will have a solid goalie this season just a hunch on my part.

since we're not resigning Mase (which angers me to no ends like seriously give me a better option for cheaper i dare you), i would be okay with shipping read/raffl and a 4th for Niemi and a 2nd
- bulet13

As long as it is pick #107 I am okay with it

I think one side burned a bridge and that was Mase, far too much running of the mouth regardless if it was needed or not. He's the goalie, not the captain. Is he the better of the UFA goalies out there, probably but Hextall would probably like to just move on at this point. Too, no doubt in my mind Flyers will have a solid goalie this season just a hunch on my part.
- flyerfan28

Yes Mason running his mouth had to be the reason why the Flyers chose to sign Neuvirth 2 months before that

This may sound dumb but if they moved MacDonald I would be interested in Phanuef. Ottawa needs to move him or possibly lose Methot or Cici in the expansion draft. I know he has 4 years left at 7mil but what if you cold get Ottawa to retain 50% and possibly take a contract like Read.

I think he could be a solid vet as your filtering in rookies on the back end and he can play some heavy minutes for you.

Again i would need to lose MacDonald first and the deal would have to be a win for me with Ottawa.
- J35Bacher

This would make some sense. I'd be willing to part with 4th to give Toronto a bit of incentive to do a deal with us. Not sure that they'd retain half, but I'd accept slightly less, say a minimum of 2.75 million per.


To Ottawa: AMac and a 2017 4th round pick
To Philly: Phaneuf with 2.75 million per season retained (cap hit now 4.25 million)

The Flyers would have a better player at a slightly lower cap hit for the next 3 years and they could, if they wished, buy out the last year of Phaneuf's deal and only be on the hook for roughly 60% of the buyout cap penalty, or more likely, they could just trade him with 750K retained. There would likely still be some interest in Phaneuf at that point with only 1 year at a cap hit and salary of 3.5 million.

edit: I'd even upgrade the 4th to Boston's 3rd if they would retain half of Phaneuf's deal. Phaneuf at 3.5 million is a significant upgrade over AMac at 5 million.

Heads exploding all over North Jersey and California today.
- MBFlyerfan

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This would make some sense. I'd be willing to part with 4th to give Toronto a bit of incentive to do a deal with us. Not sure that they'd retain half, but I'd accept slightly less, say a minimum of 2.75 million per.

To Toronto: AMac and a 2017 4th round pick
To Philly: Phaneuf with 2.75 million per season retained (cap hit now 4.25 million)

The Flyers would have a better player at a slightly lower cap hit for the next 3 years and they could, if they wished, buy out the last year of Phaneuf's deal and only be on the hook for roughly 60% of the buyout cap penalty, or more likely, they could just trade him with 750K retained. There would likely still be some interest in Phaneuf at that point with only 1 year at a cap hit and salary of 3.5 million.
- BiggE

LOL this is hilarious...you drunk already?

Also, is anyone planning on going to the draft? I go to university in Chicago and am here working for the summer and thinking of going and I would love to meet up with other Flyer fans